Wikileaks > Secretary General of NATO, Anders Fogh Rasmussen

. isnt wiki leaks fun!

Well-- apparently President Obama doesn't think so:

Obama ‘Not Pleased’

President Barack Obama learned of the leak of the documents last week and was “not pleased with this information becoming public,” White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said. While calling the leak a “crime,” Gibbs said he didn’t believe it “impacts our ability to conduct foreign policy.”

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Are you serious? I'm shocked that you even have to ask and it shows what a la-la land you are living in over there in denmark. 1. They've murdered more people than al-qaeda has. 2. Never has a terrorist group depended on coercion of civilians and subjugation of a peasant class as them. Their leadership consists of feudal overlords who have peasant children bred to either become members in the PKK or serve as sexual slaves for them. In Southeastern Anatolia, entire villages have been wiped out for refusing to submit such tribute to the PKK. Schoolhouses have been attacked, teachers are murdered, and civilians are threatened to not send their children to public schools (insuring they remain uneducated and poor and therefore having no alternative but to join the terrorist organization). By the way this is a terrorist organization where, according to their internal polling, the majority of it's members adhere to fundamentalist christianity and zoroastrianism but of course in the la-la land you are living in such people people can never do wrong can they? Or if the evil they are doing is against Muslims or Turks, it's ok and should be supported/encouraged? You still haven't replied to why it's OK for denmark to close websites for terrorists organizations outraged at US occupations in iraq and afghanistan, countries thousands of miles away from them, while denmark defends and supports the same for a more nefarious organization that threatens Turkiye's centuries old borders. That you even consider putting them in the class as freedom fighters while hypocritically defending militaristic oppression of Muslim ethnic groups throughout the world shows how hopeless the danish mindset and public opinion is and possible grounds for expulsion from NATO. Thank you you, denmark, your unavowed support of the PKK has made this possible. http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1998966,00.html

Then consider that the PKK are even worse than al-qaeda.

Is that just something you made up on the spur of the moment-- or do you have an actual source for that?

(btw EricCantor-- I'm just curious, here-- are you, by any chance, a Turk? :-)

They have killed more people. Their methods are more despicable. They are largely drug trafficers and child molestors. That you would deny that they are makes one question your sanity. I'm sorry it hurts you to find out that their are christian terrorists and that they are among the worst on the planet.

But what of self-cencorship with regards to cartoons offering much-needed criticism of christianity in the same Danish newspaper? Any criticism of the absurd argument proposed by the original cartoon including how in slandering the second largest religion in the world that has been around for 1400 years (funny it never occured to the cartoonist that this Islamophobic paranoia business only started within the last 60 years (or 30 years depending on your point of view): wonder why?) it distracts from the actual causes of terrorism including the Israel-Palestine dilemma and US militarism. How many al-quaeda militants have been extradited in denmark? How many US detention centers or related operations have been run in denmark? How many websites critical of US foreign policy have shut down? This proves the "freedom of speech" argument is nonsense. In reality, it's pick and choose. Also whose "freedom of speech" are you referring to because it is certainly not that of the kurds. Why is an illiterate, brainwashed, AK-47-toting slave representative of the kurdish people but former prime ministers and presidents of Turkiye who were ethnic kurds or part-kurdish are not including Ismet Inonu and Bulent Ecevit, both of whom came down hard on separatist terrrorism? Turkish generals were astonished that former Turkish leader Turgut Ozal, who was half-Kurdish, suggested that they militarily take back Mosul from Iraq, which had been Turkish territory for centuries, to maintain a foothhold that would insure the PKK had no sanctuary. The reality is if that if the words "America" and "American" replaced "Turk" and "Turkish" and "Arabic" and "Arab" or "Muslim" replaced "Kurd" and Kurdish" in everything Roj TV said and wrote, then Roj TV would have been closed in a heartbeat. Rasmussen never cared about "freedom of speech". All he was interested was in whatever worked to kill as many Muslims as possible.

Furthermore, in the sources I provided, which directly quote the danish media, the former station director outright states that it is run by terrorists, not journalists.

"Asked about the PKK’s impact on Roj TV broadcasts, Zonoozi said many correspondents at the station are trained at PKK camps.

“There are correspondents at PKK training camps, and they are in direct contact with the organization’s high-level figures. They are trained there. If you visit Roj TV studios in Belgium, you would see many workers whose legs and arms were amputated after clashes,” he added.""

this Islamophobic paranoia business only started within the last 60 years (or 30 years depending on your point of view):

So you are saying, then, that the Crusades were not "anti-Muslim"? WTF???

(That the Crusaders did not feel even the slightest tinge of "this Islamophobic paranoia business"?)

Or: do you feel that the Crusades actually happened "within the last 60 years (or 30 years depending on your point of view)"?

(P.S: Where can I get some of that stuff that you are smoking? :-)

krishna, you have an incredibly simplistic understanding of history. Of course there was Islamophobia in the past. The crusades were a bunch of white guys, who had recently been converted to from their native religions (which were much more amicable by the way) to a cult known as christianity, who went on to murder people and rob land hundreds of miles away from them on land they had no businuess being anywhere near. Thankfully, they were eventually defeated. Eventually, european christianity eventually underwent reformations and toned down the crazy. My point is that Abraham Lincoln and FDR weren't worried about al-qaueda, nor were Americans in the 1950s, although infantile minds such as yourself seem to think they should have been. You need to ask yourself what has been going on within the last sixty nears that has brought this gradual escalation to the point where you feel it is your duty to demonize a people whose who faith is 1400 years old and number more than one-fifth of the people in the wold.

Furthermore, your comment implies that you think the crusades were justified. The question is then is what are YOU smoking?